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Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Ok, remember our discussion of "who's to blame for American obesity?"I've figured out the solution that I think will satisfy everyone. This answer avoids the regulatory mess of trying to legislate...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Absolutely. Stupidity has always been the issue. But you can't get at "stupidity" unless you understand its causes.That guy is fat.He must be stupid.Q: What makes him stupid?A: A lifetime of bad...

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We're already intervening. We're making it illegal or at best taboo for people to discriminate against him when he's purchasing an airline ticket, using a restroom, doing his shopping. We've mandated...

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The one sure thing is that dieting almost always fails.The only sure way to lose weight and keep it off is permanent lifestyle change.If we abandon fat people to their fate, then my only concern is...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Ok. I agree with a certain amount of that logic. If we pass a law that it is child abuse to allow your child to become obese (not just "chunky", but actually fat), it should be retroactive to a...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Well then we're in total agreement. Then we have to ask: how much should tax payers be asked to spend on rehabilitation programs for victims of child abuse.?You'd have to have a system in place for...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Quote:Then we have to ask: how much should tax payers be asked to spend on rehabilitation programs for victims of child abuse.?Precious little. Fine the bloody parents.Easy to track effectiveness: Are...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

"That guy is fat.He must be stupid."Simply because someone is fat, he might not be stupid, more likely, he's lazy. There's no cure for lazy.

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Laziness, when it comes to sponging off of others who pay for your fatness and unhealthiness, is stupid.

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

So wait...getting other people to pay for your medical bills is stupid? That seems smart, in a shady kind of way.

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Sorry, I put that badly. You're not just sponging off of others, you're raising costs for yourself and everyone else. Oh, fat people pay more in health care costs than I do - they keep having to pay...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

So in other words, we're the stupid ones for not making the ones who need to pay do so, and doing it ourselves, at least partially.

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

As a side note, the enlightened self interest sounds a lot like Heinlein's statement of "morality is merely a more highly evolved survival instinct, extended to include one's species as well as...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Nonsense. I include not only my species, but other species and things in my definition of "others" when I say "what benefits others." I define good as what best concords with natural and beneficial...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Logically, including other species within your evolved survival instinct is merely a higher tier of that evolution.Also, we seem to be letting the fat people beat us over the head with their financial...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Yes. So let's take the crutch away and say, "Fine, be that way--let's see you walk on your own, lardass."(Basically, that sums up the whole argument.) :)

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

So in the end, we're in agreement? Structure insurance company policy so that people only pay for what they're likely to use?

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

A great article in NYT today about human behavior in an environment of giant portion sizes."Obviously, people have responsibility for deciding what to eat and how much. The problem is, they're not...

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Report on the Office Fatty's Doctor-Mandated Diet: Aftermaking a big to-do about buying and eating vegetables for a few days, Fatty pigs out on Weinerschnitzel and fries two days ago, followed by a...

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

Because behavioral impulses trump high-level cognition almost every time, in almost every case.

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Re: Friends - I've had an epiphany - a true "eureka" m

It just hit me that that quote you cited was from "Dr. Barbara Rolls." Oh god. I don't think it's high-level cognition to begin recognizing when adverse effects follow certain actions. The rat that...

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